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no longer accept medicare patients. i will restore that $716 billion to medicare. finally, military. the president's re-elected, you will see dramatic cuts to the military. the secretary of defense says these would be devastating. i will not cut our commitment to our military. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. thank you, jim. >> jim: thank you, governor. thank you, mr. president. the next debate will be the vice-presidential event on thursday, october 11 at center o'clock in danville, kentucky. for now, from the university of denver, i'm jim lehrer. thank you and gbts. ooh thank you and good night. [cheers and applause] did >> 90 minutes later. it was a robust debate, in the team jerseys, governor rom flee in the reds tie, president obama in the blue. romney landing a number of job jabs on everything from debt and jobs and the economy to health care, to his green energy program, saying, americans, republican and democrat need leadership and he's prepared to provide it. the presiden
no longer accept medicare patients. i will restore that $716 billion to medicare. finally, military. the president's re-elected, you will see dramatic cuts to the military. the secretary of defense says these would be devastating. i will not cut our commitment to our military. i will keep america strong and get america's middle class working again. thank you, jim. >> jim: thank you, governor. thank you, mr. president. the next debate will be the vice-presidential event on thursday,...
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up to 1% of a hospital's medicare reimbursement. for example, if a hospital submits a $100,000 bill to medicare, the penalty would reduce the reimbursement to $99,000. in all, the penalized hospitals will forfeit about $290 million in medicare funds over the next year. steven love heads the dallas/fort worth hospital council. he says the penalties are unfair to hospitals that serve primarily low-income populations. >> hospitals that treat people that are in low-income areas in many cases don't have the primary care providers they need in their communities. they may not have the pharmacies they need. and so to coordinate that care outside of the hospital is going to be very difficult. >> reporter: scott, not all hospitals are failing to meet these guidelines and some hospital executive wes spoke to say the initiative is not all bad. in fact, some of those hospitals are developing their own programs to keep people healthier once they do get home and out of the hospital. >> pelley: anna, thanks very much. what's causing the seats to co
up to 1% of a hospital's medicare reimbursement. for example, if a hospital submits a $100,000 bill to medicare, the penalty would reduce the reimbursement to $99,000. in all, the penalized hospitals will forfeit about $290 million in medicare funds over the next year. steven love heads the dallas/fort worth hospital council. he says the penalties are unfair to hospitals that serve primarily low-income populations. >> hospitals that treat people that are in low-income areas in many cases...
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other than medicare. the governor has declined to endorse that idea even though the republican as well as democratic leaders in congress have endorsed it. i would be interested to see if he would say this evening he'll put medicare in a lockbox. i don't think he will because under his plan if you work out the numbers $100 billion comes out of medicare just for the wealthiest 1% in the tax cut. now here is the difference. some people who say the word reform actually mean cuts. under the governor's plan, if you kept the same fee for service that you have now under medicare, your premiums would go up by between 18% and 47%, and that is the study of the congressional plan that he's modeled his proposal on by the medicare actuaries. let me give you one quick example. there is a man here tonight named george mckinney from milwaukee. he's 70 years old, has high blood pressure, his wife has heart trouble. they have an income of $25,000 a year. they can't pay for their prescription drugs and so they're some of the
other than medicare. the governor has declined to endorse that idea even though the republican as well as democratic leaders in congress have endorsed it. i would be interested to see if he would say this evening he'll put medicare in a lockbox. i don't think he will because under his plan if you work out the numbers $100 billion comes out of medicare just for the wealthiest 1% in the tax cut. now here is the difference. some people who say the word reform actually mean cuts. under the...
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i cannot understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. you point out, we are putting some back, we will give a better prescription program. that is $1 for every $15 you have cut. that is not a good trade. i want to take that $716 billion of cut and put it back into medicare. we can include a prescription program, but the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obamacare, in my opinion, would be a mistake. with regards to young people coming along, i have proposals to make sure social security and medicare are there for them without any question. >> first of all, it is important for governor romney to present this plan that he says will only affect folks in the future. the essence of the plan is that he would turn medicare into a voucher program. is call premium support but it is understood to be a voucher program. >> and you don't support that. >> i don't, and let me explain why. if your ticket for are people like, you might want to listen -- if you are 54 or 55, you might want to listen. th
i cannot understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. you point out, we are putting some back, we will give a better prescription program. that is $1 for every $15 you have cut. that is not a good trade. i want to take that $716 billion of cut and put it back into medicare. we can include a prescription program, but the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obamacare, in my opinion, would be a mistake....
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i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 million for current recipients of medicare. you point out, we're putting some back, better prescription program. that's $1 for every $15 you've cut. they are smart enough to know that's not a good trade. i want to take that $716 million you've cut, put it back into medicare. we can include a prescription program. but the idea of cutting $716 million from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obama care is in my opinion a mistake. with regard to young people coming along, i have proposals to make sure medicare and social security are there for them without question. >> mr. president. >> first of all, i think it's important for governor romney to present this plan that he says will only affect folks in the future. and the essence of the plan as you would turn medicare into a voucher program. it's called premium support, and u.s. a vou it's a voucher program. >> and you don't support that? >> i don't. >> and that's for younger people. >> if you are 54or 55, you might want to listen this will affect you. the idea, o
i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 million for current recipients of medicare. you point out, we're putting some back, better prescription program. that's $1 for every $15 you've cut. they are smart enough to know that's not a good trade. i want to take that $716 million you've cut, put it back into medicare. we can include a prescription program. but the idea of cutting $716 million from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obama care is in my opinion a mistake....
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he is on medicare. on medicare he is cutting $716 billion from the program. he says by not overpaying hospitals and providers, actually going to them and saying everybody is going to get a lower rate. that's saying we're cutting the rates. some 15% of hospitals and nursing homes say they won't make any more medicare patients under that scenario. and we have 50% of doctors who say they won't take anymore medicare patients. we have 4 million people on medicare advantage that will lose it because of those $716 billion in cuts. i can't understand how you can cut medicare $716 million for current recipients of medicare. you point out we're putting come back we'll give a better prescription program. that's $1 for every 15 you have cut. i want to take that $716 billion that you have cut, and put it back into medicare. the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obamacare is in my opinion a mistake. with regards to young people coming along, i have proposals to make sure the young people are covered. >> president obama?
he is on medicare. on medicare he is cutting $716 billion from the program. he says by not overpaying hospitals and providers, actually going to them and saying everybody is going to get a lower rate. that's saying we're cutting the rates. some 15% of hospitals and nursing homes say they won't make any more medicare patients under that scenario. and we have 50% of doctors who say they won't take anymore medicare patients. we have 4 million people on medicare advantage that will lose it because...
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we cannot didn't cut medicare -- of course, we don't have medicare, by $716 billion. we didn't put into place a board to tell people what treatment they could receive. we didn't do something that a number of people recognize, put people in a position where they are going to lose the insurance that they have and they wanted. right now, the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose insurance as obamacare goes into effect next year. likewise, a study by mckensy and company said 30% of them are anticipating dropping people from coverage. so for those reasons, for the tax, for the medicare, for this board and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want medicare -- don't want obamacare, it's why republicans said do not do this. the republicans had a plan. they put a plan out. they put a bipartisan plan, it was swept aside. i think something this big, this important, has to be done in a bipartisan baitionz. we have to have a president who can reach across the aisle and fashion important legislation with the input of both parties. >> governo
we cannot didn't cut medicare -- of course, we don't have medicare, by $716 billion. we didn't put into place a board to tell people what treatment they could receive. we didn't do something that a number of people recognize, put people in a position where they are going to lose the insurance that they have and they wanted. right now, the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose insurance as obamacare goes into effect next year. likewise, a study by mckensy and company said 30% of them are...
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it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/ryan/rubio approach. >> that's fine. what is his approach? where is his plan to save medicare? it's going to go bankrupt, not just for my generation, but for my mom. what he is doing about it, other than taking $700 billion out of it. >> all right. we just lost that connection. but we'll try to reconnect with jim acosta and senator marco rubio and also about to see the highs and lows. ratings for the candidates from our focus group of undecided voters, we'll hear from them as well. also, you can see the debate again in its entirety, in just a little bit. stay with us. ♪ (train horn) vo: wherever our trains go, the economy comes to life. norfolk southern. one line, infinite possibilities. the wheels of progress. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like you. and regions is here to help. with the experience and service to keep things rolling. fro
it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/ryan/rubio approach. >> that's fine. what is his approach? where is his plan to save medicare? it's going to go bankrupt, not just for my generation, but for my mom. what he is doing about it, other than taking $700 billion out of it. >> all right. we just lost that connection. but we'll try to reconnect with jim acosta and...
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. >> reporter: on medicare and social security,one agreement. >> neither the president nor are are i are proposing any changes. >> aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare, substantially. >> romney fired back a a major debate moment that the president weakened the economy by his focus on health care. >> i don't know how the president could have come into office facing rising unploimt and spending energy and passion fighting for obama care. >> we did work on this alongside working on jobs. this is part of making sure that middle class families are secure in this country. >> a substantial debate. no zingers. i'm steve handles, nbc news, denver. >> as mentioned, we heard a t lo of promises from both candidates. did any resonate with people out of work or those about to enter the job market? jim rosenfield continues our k06 raj. he continues at george mason yucht, jim? >> doreen, first time young and many of them undecided voters. here at george mason university in fairfax. they were not shy. >> quick show of hands, for how many of you is this your first presidential election?
. >> reporter: on medicare and social security,one agreement. >> neither the president nor are are i are proposing any changes. >> aarp has said that your plan would weaken medicare, substantially. >> romney fired back a a major debate moment that the president weakened the economy by his focus on health care. >> i don't know how the president could have come into office facing rising unploimt and spending energy and passion fighting for obama care. >> we did...
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and then talk about medicare. because that's the big driver -- >> you bet. >> -- of our deficits right now. you know, my grandmother, some of you know, helped to raise me, my grandparents did. my grandfather died a while back. my grandmother died three days before i was elected president. and she was fiercely independent. she worked her way up, only had a high school education, started as a secretary, ended up being the vice president of a local bank. and she ended up living alone by choice. and the reason she could be independent is because of social security and medicare. she had worked all her life, put in this money, and understood that there was a basic guarantee, a floor under which she could not go. and that's the perspective i bring when i think about what's called entitlements. you know, the name itself implies some sense of dependency on the part of these folks. these are focus who have worked hard, like my grandmother. and there are millions of people out there who are counting on this. so my approach i
and then talk about medicare. because that's the big driver -- >> you bet. >> -- of our deficits right now. you know, my grandmother, some of you know, helped to raise me, my grandparents did. my grandfather died a while back. my grandmother died three days before i was elected president. and she was fiercely independent. she worked her way up, only had a high school education, started as a secretary, ended up being the vice president of a local bank. and she ended up living alone...
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it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/ryan/rubio approach. >> that's fine. what is his approach? where is his plan to save medicare? it's going to go bankrupt, not just for my generation, but for my mom. what he is doing about it, other than taking $700 billion out of it. >> all right. we just lost that connection. but we'll try to reconnect with jim acosta and senator marco rubio and also about to see the highs and lows. ratings for the candidates from our focus group of undecided voters, we'll hear from them as well. also, you can see the debate again in its entirety, in just a little bit. stay with us. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] at&t. the nation's largest 4g network. now covering 3000 more 4g cities and towns than verizon. at&t. rethink possible. constipated? yeah. mm. some laxatives like dulcolax can cause cramps. but phillips' caplets don't. they have magnesium. for effective relief of occasional constipation. thanks. [ phillips' lady ] live
it's a machine to save medicare. where is the president's plan to save medicare? >> the president would say his plan would not to go with the romney/ryan/rubio approach. >> that's fine. what is his approach? where is his plan to save medicare? it's going to go bankrupt, not just for my generation, but for my mom. what he is doing about it, other than taking $700 billion out of it. >> all right. we just lost that connection. but we'll try to reconnect with jim acosta and...
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can we stay on medicare? >> we're going to -- i want to get to it -- >> i'm sorry. >> before we leave -- >> let's get back to medicare. the government sapresident said provide it at lower cost and without a profit. if that's the case, it will always be the best product that people -- >> wait a minute, governor. >> the private sector typically is able to provide a better product -- >> can we -- can the two of you agree that the voters have a clear voice? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> all right, to finish quickly, briefly, on the economy, what is your view about the level of federal regulation of the economy right now? is there too much and in your case, mr. president, is there, should there be more. beginning with you, this is not a new segment to start. we'll go for a few minute and we're going to go to health care, okay? >> regulation is essential. you can't have a free market work if you don't have regulation. as a business person, i had to have -- i need to know the regulations. i needed them there. you
can we stay on medicare? >> we're going to -- i want to get to it -- >> i'm sorry. >> before we leave -- >> let's get back to medicare. the government sapresident said provide it at lower cost and without a profit. if that's the case, it will always be the best product that people -- >> wait a minute, governor. >> the private sector typically is able to provide a better product -- >> can we -- can the two of you agree that the voters have a clear voice?...
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so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guide. i've been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i'll be able to stick with him. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are no networks, and you never need a referral. see why millions of people have already enrolled in the only medicare supplement insurance plans endorsed by aarp. don't wait. call now.
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you talk about social security and medicare people? they're part of your 47%, you want to drop them from the list of eligible americans. you don't have any care for these people, we've got it on tape governor. what you think of these people. don't come out here and pretend that you care about old people because you met somebody at the campaign event. where was obama tonight? he should watch -- well not just "hardball", rachel, he should watch you, the reverend al, lawrence, there's a hot debate going on in this country, here on this network is where we're having the debate. we have our knives out we go after the people and the facts. what was he doing tonight? he went in there disarmed. he was wait an hour and a half, i think i can get through this thing. where as romney. i loved the split screen, staring at obama, addressing him. he did it just right. i'm coming at an incumbent. i've got to beat him. and i don't care what this guy moderator whatever he think he ises because i'm going to ignore him. what was romney doing? he was winnin
you talk about social security and medicare people? they're part of your 47%, you want to drop them from the list of eligible americans. you don't have any care for these people, we've got it on tape governor. what you think of these people. don't come out here and pretend that you care about old people because you met somebody at the campaign event. where was obama tonight? he should watch -- well not just "hardball", rachel, he should watch you, the reverend al, lawrence, there's a...
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we didn't cut medicare. of course, we didn't have medicare but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive. we didn't also do something that i think a number of people across this country recognize which is put people in a position where they're going to lose the insurance they had and they wanted. right now c.b.o. says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obamacare goes into effect next year. like wise a study by mckenzie and company of american businesses said 30% of them are anticipating dropping people from coverage. so for those reasons for the tax, for medicare, for this board and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want obamacare. it's why republicans said do not do this and the republicans had the plan, they put a plan out they put a bipartisan plan, it was swept aside. i think something this big this important has to be done in a bipartisan basis. a
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you have 4 million people who lose medicare advantage. you have hospitals and provides no longer accepting medicare. i will restore that $716 billion to meddcare. finally, military. you will see dramatic cuts toward military if the president is reelected. pt is said this will be devastating. i will not cut our commitment to the military. i will keep america strong and get america's middle-class working again. thank you, jim. >> thank you. the next debate will be on thursday, october 11 on -- at center college in kentucky for now, i am -- aa center college in kentucky." for now, i am jim lehrer. good night. [applause] >> and now, the familles are on stage as the first of three presidential debates comes to a close. we have been falling the romney campaign. carl, an event like this ends, whoever you were for you believe it did just great. whether you were against, you think did just horribly. >> it will be hard to judge initially. like so many debates, the spot analysis that will happen in the spin room for the next three or four hours, wwa
you have 4 million people who lose medicare advantage. you have hospitals and provides no longer accepting medicare. i will restore that $716 billion to meddcare. finally, military. you will see dramatic cuts toward military if the president is reelected. pt is said this will be devastating. i will not cut our commitment to the military. i will keep america strong and get america's middle-class working again. thank you, jim. >> thank you. the next debate will be on thursday, october 11 on...
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they talked about medicare as well. romney off to virginia today with paul ryan for his post-debate rally there today and in fact virginiaes one of the states that our polls showed right before this debate where he's starting to close the gap. the president after having another rally here is off to wisconsin where he'll speak to a college crowd, familiar crowd for the president. perhaps a little more comfortable than last night. some of the spin after that debate last night and some of the instant polls are giving this one to romney. some of that spin saying that the president wasn't quite as passionate as many even democrats thought he might be. of course we've got two more debates to go. marla. >> thank you very much. >>> so-called experts on both sides of the aisle say mitt romney did have the better performance. right now santa clara political university professor jim cottrell, i think many were surprised to see mitt romney animated, connected and passi passiona passionate. >> he seemed very polished, seemed very pr
they talked about medicare as well. romney off to virginia today with paul ryan for his post-debate rally there today and in fact virginiaes one of the states that our polls showed right before this debate where he's starting to close the gap. the president after having another rally here is off to wisconsin where he'll speak to a college crowd, familiar crowd for the president. perhaps a little more comfortable than last night. some of the spin after that debate last night and some of the...
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you're going to see a $716 billion cut to medicare. and the president support taking $716 billion out of that program. >> cenk: he said it ten times! and every time literally screaming in the studios in new york going hit him back! that's not true! say it isn't true! instead, this is what president obama said. >> obama: um um, um, and um, and and um, now, um um, you know that may not-- >> cenk: oooh! because of that he found himself in the middle of a ring going hey, what's going on? where did mitt go? oh no, he's on the top rung. we didn't want to see that. we didn't want to see that. then mitt romney sets him up perfectly. you know you got to mention bain. you got to mention the cayman islands and the swiss bank accounts. >> you say you get a deduction for taking a plant overseas. look i've been in business for 25 years. i have no idea what you're talking about. maybe i need to get a new accountant but the idea that you get a break for shipping jobs overseas-- >> cenk: i might need a new accountant? that's on a platter. had you go on
you're going to see a $716 billion cut to medicare. and the president support taking $716 billion out of that program. >> cenk: he said it ten times! and every time literally screaming in the studios in new york going hit him back! that's not true! say it isn't true! instead, this is what president obama said. >> obama: um um, um, and um, and and um, now, um um, you know that may not-- >> cenk: oooh! because of that he found himself in the middle of a ring going hey, what's...
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i cannot understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. you point out, well, we're putting some back, we're going to get a better prescription program. that's $1 for every $15 you've cut. they're smart enough to know that's not a good trait. i want to take that $716 billion you've cut and put it back into medicare. by the way, we can include a prescription program if we need to improve in. but the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to balance the additional cost of obamacare is a mistake. and with regards to young people coming along, i've got proposals to make sure that medicare and social security are there for them without any question. >> first of all, i think i.t. is important for governor romney to present his plans to he says will only affect folks in the future. and the essence of the plan is that he would turn medicare into a voucher program. it's called premium support, but it's understood to be about the program. his running mate -- >> and you don't support that? >> i don't, and let me explain why -- >> again,
i cannot understand how you can cut medicare $716 billion for current recipients of medicare. you point out, well, we're putting some back, we're going to get a better prescription program. that's $1 for every $15 you've cut. they're smart enough to know that's not a good trait. i want to take that $716 billion you've cut and put it back into medicare. by the way, we can include a prescription program if we need to improve in. but the idea of cutting $716 billion from medicare to be able to...
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we didn't cut medicare. of course, we don't have medicare but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive. we didn't also do something that i think a number of people across this country recognize, which is put people in a position where they're going to lose the insurance they had and they wanted. right now the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obama care goes into effect next year. and likewise a study of mckinsey and company of american businesses said 30% of them are at risk of being dropped. for those reasons, for the tax, for medicare, for this board and for people losing their insurance, this is why the american people don't want obama care. it's why republicans said do not do this, and the republicans had the plan. they put a plan out. they put a bipartisan plan. it was swept aside. i think something this big, this important, has to be done on a bipartisan basis. and we have
we didn't cut medicare. of course, we don't have medicare but we didn't cut medicare by $716 billion. we didn't put in place a board that can tell people ultimately what treatments they're going to receive. we didn't also do something that i think a number of people across this country recognize, which is put people in a position where they're going to lose the insurance they had and they wanted. right now the cbo says up to 20 million people will lose their insurance as obama care goes into...
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in maryland doctor lived off medicare for more than $1 million. why you could be footing the bill. >> heavy rain earlier today. dense fog forming and the two areas tonight. we will check that and check out we will check that and check out of warm and those well grounded. for what's around this corner... and the next. there's cash flow options from pnc. solutions to help businesses like yours accelerate receivables, manage payments, and help ensure access to credit. because we know how important cash flow is to reaching your goals. pnc bank. for the achiever in you. >> jim lehrer, a moderate the 90 minutes. you can watch that right here. the redskins issued a statement. part of it reads -- in addition to adding another casino, question 7 backs other games. it is a huge target for fraud. as much as $60 billion is listed on providers to cheat. can it be stopped? our commit in 2012 report. >> it was bought by this man, a doctor. at the time in 2009, he was making money by ripping off medicare. but when the government insurance plan for patient care it
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